tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-807373735971140947.post3541314742371537926..comments2024-03-18T14:14:58.202-07:00Comments on thefab4dozen: PID programming: And the dangers of a "One Paul/One Faul" theoryLinushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01691727392049030311noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-807373735971140947.post-6079565955085781252013-12-28T21:38:27.026-08:002013-12-28T21:38:27.026-08:00I wish I knew the answer to that question. I would...I wish I knew the answer to that question. I would hazard a guess, since a clone would technically be a replica of a human, that they could.<br />But with that being said, who is to say that the Beatle kids weren't also created via a technology unknown to the public?Linushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01691727392049030311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-807373735971140947.post-40709766644987750472013-12-27T15:16:22.320-08:002013-12-27T15:16:22.320-08:00I've come to the conclusion there were at leas...I've come to the conclusion there were at least three Pauls. It seems as though they all continued to play this role throughout these many years. But, who or what, married Linda Eastman? I'm not sure I accept the clone theory, but just in case it's true, can clones even procreate?Lananoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-807373735971140947.post-45706765247856529872013-12-20T22:29:24.256-08:002013-12-20T22:29:24.256-08:00I’m not saying there were no clues; I’m saying the...I’m not saying there were no clues; I’m saying there were, and that they go back as far as 1963.<br /> http://thefab4dozen.blogspot.com/2012/04/pre-fall-66-pid-motifs.html <br />Nor am I denying that a death may have occurred. As I state many times, it just that it seems to me to have happened during, or before, the early-60s – as there seems to be multiple Pauls as far back as the Hamburg days. <br />http://thefab4dozen.blogspot.com/2012/04/meet-different-early-paul-mccartneys.html<br />And that there are no who, what, why, where, when and hows concerning the standard 1966-death theory. And with that being said, it does not seem to me that the PID clues are about Paul dying ONLY, but other esoteric concepts. as well, (which can be found when studying Hermetic writings). <br /><br /><br />You do realize the forensic scientists from the Wired article used a stretched image from the Sgt. Pepper gatefold, right? They also failed to noticed all of the glaring differences between their two 1963 Pauls. I go over this in a few different places on this blog. <br /><br />Recently, a researcher at the NIR forum actually did a series of voice prints from songs and interviews throughout the entire ‘60s, and found that they were all too similar for any of them to be imposters.<br /> http://invanddis.proboards.com/thread/7358/voice-analysis-results-seperate-videos <br /><br />If a 'replacement' was having surgery done on his ears, why didn’t they make them the same as (some of) the earlier Paul(s). There are different ears to be seen in both eras. <br /><br />I also do not see where people get their certainty that there is a right-hander after 1966. Not only is there no evidence of any of them writing or playing guitar right-handed (that’s not a flipped image), but there was rampant right-hand use before 1967.<br />http://thefab4dozen.blogspot.com/2012/04/right-handed-or-ambidextrous-paul.html<br /><br />Many things like not playing live can be purposefully done to play into the PID scenario, which they were obviously doing in earnest in 1967. <br /><br /> <br />I didn’t identify any of the men in the photos here. (They are all Fauls to me). I only denoted them by the year the photo is from, and used PID logic to desecribe how standard PIDers would, and have, identified them. Perhaps a more thorough read through this post and the entire blog is needed. With that said, I did just now update this post in hopes of making my point more clear. This post was originally written about 2 years ago. <br /><br /><br />Yes, as I continually say, I would love to see forensic scientists analyze all of the Pauls within each era to each other. As well as the other three Beatles. Unfortunately, the Wired article only compares one Paul to one Faul at a time. Which is the very problem I am addressing in this post. <br /><br /> At this point, us amateurs must do what we can. Take those standards you learn from the scientist's measurements and apply it to every photo you see. Though it doesn’t take a forensic scientist to see that a man’s eye moves around on his head and back again, from week to week, his height change unexplainably in a matter of days, then return weeks later, etc. etc. <br /><br />I too commend anyone for doing research, and encourage it. However, not only does one need to be careful, as you say, but above all, as I always say, one needs to be completely thorough and unbiased! <br /><br />The problem with most PID sites is that they are staggeringly unthorough and heavily biased, which is a big problem in this community.<br /><br />Thanks to everyone who has commented here. I appreciate the feedback, critiques and questions.<br />Linushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01691727392049030311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-807373735971140947.post-45625602736352578852013-12-17T19:41:25.112-08:002013-12-17T19:41:25.112-08:00By the way, you have misidentified Paul and Faul i...By the way, you have misidentified Paul and Faul in a few of the photos above. The man with the moustache and smokes is Faul, most definitely. He holds things in his left hand sometimes; this is not the justification for a rightie preference, nor is that the sole consideration when looking at the two figures -- the putatively two figures, shall we say.<br /><br />Also, people who start saying there were more replacements are not wrong to wonder, but their investigations do not hold up to forensic considerations; they are only based on impressions. John lost weight, Ringo gained some, and yet their character remained ebullient in the same places, sullen in perhaps more places.<br /><br />Paulie died, but the rest carried on, and this is not mere impression, but study as well. I slam no-one for investigating, but investigations must be careful.<br /><br />Thank you for writing your thoughts, at least because of your interest. "Here comes the Sun" ... one day. Perhaps there will be some formal leak. Other than that, we will just have to know about Paulie and wish him, and the others who have passed on (some by murder, such as Mal Evans) to Rest in Peace now.Clare Kuehnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767270035823206231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-807373735971140947.post-6180644305646743022013-12-17T19:35:14.787-08:002013-12-17T19:35:14.787-08:00Unfortunately, none of this debunks strange idea t...Unfortunately, none of this debunks strange idea there are clues or Paul died (separate q's).<br /><br />And yes, some PIDers have strange ideas of what Paul and Faul really look like, just as some PIAers (Paul is Alive-ers) have. However, yes, Paul had an eye which occasionally looked quite slanted. He also, by early 1966, had quite puffy cheeks, in some photos. Sir Paul ("Faul") did not achieve this before 1968 from filler. However, it is true that some PIDers think Paul was replaced earlier than Sept 11 because in the late summer some photos captured him in odd angles, with puffy cheeks. One must be careful with all things.<br /><br />Clues:<br />4 provably planted items called clues, no matter why. The 4: text reference, 1967 February Beatles Monthly (ostensibly=disclaimer), 2 "OPD" clues, 1967 (made from an OPP patch) -- one well known, where P. becomes D. on slight cylinder (upper arm, impossible) & 1 nearly unknown (fully frontal OPD), both from versions of Sgt P gatefold on album -- & 1995 (after 1969 brouhaha) "Free as a Bird" video: death head Paul, as if leafy reflection, on back of 1960s police van. (Camera pans on stationary window, reflection, van, but no blur on reflection, optically impossible to be natural). & The other thematic clues = grisly, clever, sad.<br /> <br />Date:<br />Clue date, even if didn't die = Sept 11 (1966) not Nov 9. Clue date comes from the front of the Sgt Pepper album, on the drumskin (use a mirror image 1/2way thru central text "Lonely Hearts"). Reads "I ONE IX ^ HE DIE" or 11 9 He die, which would mean 11th day, 9th month He die, for UK, Canada, etc. numbered dating. When USA got the rumour (late 1969), the US assumed 11th month, 9th day. -- & On 1-year anniv., Mag Myst Tour movie started filming, w/ lots of PID clue & on 2nd anniv., John Lennon recorded "Glass Onion", which pleaded (or seemed to) to "listen to me" & stated there were clues & Walrus image meant Paul in the clues.<br /><br />Alibis & circumstance & reason:<br />Didn't play instruments on film (played air guitar, so to speak) for 1.5 years after Sept. 1966: leaves room for right-hander to learn good left-handed bass for public appearances. If Paulie died by accident or murder, cover-up would include intelligence circles and loyalty to helping the band continue without noticeable interruption. It would be too long to discuss people around the issue here, such as family, friends, etc., but not impossible.<br /> <br />Death:<br />For anyone who doesn't see a difference in pre-/post-Sept. 1966 Paul images, arguments from forensic imaging aren't likely to *feel* like arguments, but: Careful assessment of the distance between eyes, to forehead width, to chin distance, to under-nose distance, etc., show radically different enough measurements, to be another person. Also, the ears differ, in ways incommensurable with mere foreshortening (perspective) difference. He also wore false ears at least 9 times, in film&video (not an absolute proof like the others here, but is required if surgery and natural ear difference were being covered up). Voice prints suggest (professional: Dr. Henry Truby, and amateur: modern computer programs) the voices differ between 1966/after in songs, but no-one has done a study of morphing they did, or what or how that would affect the voice print harmonics, or done a study of the speaking voices.<br /> <br />Further sources: some pages at http://plasticmacca.blogspot.com and the page (being rewritten at present, but more complete in one page) http://youcanknowsometimes.blogspot.comClare Kuehnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08767270035823206231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-807373735971140947.post-33120363405742888062013-12-08T17:47:43.118-08:002013-12-08T17:47:43.118-08:00Thoroughly agree and appreciate this article. It ...Thoroughly agree and appreciate this article. It takes amazing insight and courage to post something like this in consideration of the controlled opposition that exists. I found the same phenomenon in the 911 realm as well. <br /><br />Your observations are refreshingly absent of tainted thinking or peer pressured opinion. You are one in a million. Great job.<br /><br /> Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16798416712687611060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-807373735971140947.post-70315008504110302042013-09-05T23:28:04.937-07:002013-09-05T23:28:04.937-07:00Well written excellent blog. I don't have a ho...Well written excellent blog. I don't have a horse in the race but was leaning toward the PID theory. However, there are too many inconsistencies with the PID theory and the "multiples" makes more logical sense. "Tall Paul" shows up pre-1966 (in my research of old photo's) which makes he less convinced to the PID theory. I haven't drawn any conclusions, but this article is very informative and well researched... well done, sir!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12029357136916873292noreply@blogger.com